Post by: xanthmo on April 30, 2008, 02:21:20 PM
I just received a Zongshen 250 GS "Winner". Assembly was pretty easy, with the exception of no instructions included. Took it out for a short ride, and was relatively impressed. Seemed to have decent power, kept up with traffic easily at 65mph.
The bike does have a few shortcomings:
1. The side mirrors are pretty useless.
2. The seats are not on hinges, the passenger seat comes off completely, and the larger seat is bolted on.
3. I broke a bracket to the plastic cover trying to get to the battery.
The good though is that it is a pretty cool looking bike, has a decent sound, decent power, and it is unique.
Post by: skadamo on April 30, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
Post by: xanthmo on May 01, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
I ordered the bike from Scooter Dynasty. They were great to deal with, the bike arrived about 4 days after I placed the order, and Vince at Scooter Dynasty sent me emails to keep me informed throughout the whole process, he has even followed up on the MSO order.
Post by: skadamo on May 01, 2008, 08:46:27 PM
This bike looks pretty cool...
http://www.scooterdynasty.com/index.asp ... ProdID=800 (http://www.scooterdynasty.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=800)
Wonder who makes that one.
Post by: xanthmo on May 02, 2008, 01:37:57 PM
I think that dirtbike was marked AGB which I haven't heard of. I kind of like the dual sport look on some of the others, but I don't know of very many places in North Eastern Illinois that a Dirt or Dual sport would be useful.
Post by: xanthmo on May 04, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
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Post by: drummerben on June 01, 2008, 06:28:35 AM
saw that you recently purchased the gs 250 from scooter dynasty. I did as well a couple of days ago. What sort of assembly did you have to go through and how mechanically inclined do you need to be?
BTW--bike still running smooth?
Post by: xanthmo on June 02, 2008, 08:04:29 PM
Assembling the Zongshen gs250 Sportbike was pretty simple, the front wheel needed to be bolted on, and I think the rear rack/passenger grab bars need to be bolted on.
The hardest part of the assembly was holding the front off the ground to get the wheel set in between the brake pads. I ended up having my brother lift the front end while I slipped a Home Depot bucket under the muffler/engine cover. There is no center stand on this bike, unfortunately.
I have put on about 200 miles, and the bike runs very well. I have managed an actual top speed of about 70mph according to the speedometer. It gets to 65mph very easily, but past that it accelerates very slowly, and at wide open throttle.
I have tuned the bike a little to my comfort specs, out of the box, the clutch did not engage until the lever was almost all the way out, making it hard to feather the clutch in tight turns, so I adjusted that on the lower adjusting screws by the engine.
I also forgot, be careful taking the side cover off to access the battery, I believe that there are 3 screws that need to be taken off for the entire side cover to release, I only took off 2 and tried to bend the plastic, and ended up breaking the back plastic bracket.
Are you new to riding, and/or is this your first bike? I think that for the price it is a pretty decent bike.
Good luck, and have fun with the new bike!
Post by: drummerben on June 04, 2008, 08:10:28 AM
do you remember if you had to provide for any fluids, or is the bike just gas and go?
I am expecting the shipment within the next day or so and want to be fully prepare for what I need to do.
Thanks for all your input
Post by: xanthmo on June 04, 2008, 11:18:43 AM
I am certainly not an expert, but I read that you should lube the wheels and bearings before bolting it all together, although I did not do this.
The bike seemed to have a considerable amount of grease at pivot points including the gear shifter, and passenger footpegs. I actually ended up wiping off alot of grease because in places it was almost 1/2" thick.
It can also be argued that the oil should be changed before riding, which I also did not do. Many other people do not like to depend on the oil that comes in the bike, and opt to change it for piece of mind.
I think you will find the hardest part of the process being taking the crate apart. It has very sharp edges, and mine had some bent screws that were almost impossible to remove. On the other hand, this bike arrived in much better condition due to the crating than the SUNL scooter I received last year.
I hope it is ok to post a link? I have a very extensive photo show of my bike at http://xanthmo.com (http://xanthmo.com) - I should have taken pictures on arrival, but I didn't.
Post by: drummerben on June 04, 2008, 06:53:54 PM
Just to clarify, you basiclly were able to "gas and go"...aside from a few minor assemblies?
Post by: xanthmo on June 05, 2008, 05:36:29 AM
Be Safe,
Xanthmo
Post by: drummerben on June 10, 2008, 07:45:23 PM
Did you have any trouble starting your bike after you assembled it. I can't seem to get it started. It has gas, it's in neutral, etc. What am I doing wrong?
HELP!
Post by: xanthmo on June 10, 2008, 09:55:04 PM
The right handle bar has the engine kill switch, is that in the down position? I can't remember the graphics on the switch but I think it is an "X" (In the up position) for off and "O" for on.
Also, check the fuel petcock on the left side of the bike by the engine (mine is blue), mine was off, and the fuel line was disconnected. Check to make sure the fuel line is connected on both sides, and turn the petcock lever (It is turned to the front of the bike on arrival, and should be turned UP to allow gas to flow), and try to start it again.
Xanthmo
Post by: xanthmo on June 10, 2008, 10:11:23 PM
This should be a really bad GIMP-Shop of where the fuel petcock is, and the fuel line connection I had to connect on my bike upon assembly.
Sorry, I forgot about having done this.
Post by: drummerben on June 11, 2008, 08:57:42 AM
drummerben
Post by: drummerben on June 11, 2008, 09:12:48 AM
Any insight?
Post by: xanthmo on June 11, 2008, 03:14:32 PM
I didn't charge the battery, although I am sure it is highly recommended that you do charge it before use.
I definately do not have a kick start.
I am not near my owners manual to check on the setup so I can't really guide this procedure, but I would check the spark plug, and wire, and make sure those connections are good. I am sure the manual also has the instructions for checking the spark plug for spark. I have heard many other china bike owners replace the spark plug upon delivery, although I did not do this either.
Does it have power to turn the starter/motor? (This is pretty obvious)
Is the motor getting fuel? If the fuel line was connected upon delivery, have a container ready to catch the fuel, and disconnect the fuel line below the petcock, to check for flow, then reconnect. Also, check for pinches or disconnected fuel lines.
If it had flow, is the carb flooded, or the float could be stuck? I cannot guide checking this either but maybe your manual and or dealer could assist.
Finally, if it is not a flooding or fuel delivery problem, troubleshoot the spark plug, to check for proper spark (make sure you are away from the fuel if you try this). Check the manual or contact the dealer for suggestions on this.
I am not sure what other directions to point you. This is a pretty simple machine, and I really can't think of any others possibilities in the system.
I can't remember if you have to pull the clutch in to start the bike, I think you do if it is in gear, but not in neutral. I always pull the clutch in when I start it, and at one point I had to adjust the clutch cable a little because it was not disengaging the clutch fully. This is accomplished by moving the 2 nuts just below the fuel line on the same side as the petcock. I do not think this is your problem, but it may come up soon - mine did after 2 weeks of riding.
Post by: drummerben on June 11, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
Post by: drummerben on June 12, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
Thanks for indulging my newbie questions. You actually did help a lot.
I'll post some pics soon.
Post by: xanthmo on June 12, 2008, 11:01:18 PM
Xanthmo
Post by: drummerben on June 13, 2008, 02:24:32 AM
So far so good, though!!
Post by: drummerben on June 13, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
Post by: xanthmo on June 13, 2008, 03:53:24 PM
I can excelerate pretty well, up to about 60-65, and then I am running 7000-8000 rpms, with no power left. Beyond 65, I apply full throttle, and may get up to 70, but I don't think the bike would do that for long.
As far as the powerband goes, I was trying to stretch out the shifts and run up the RPM's at first, but I have recently been running the bike in lower RPM's 3500+, and taking quick, short shifts, and that seems to improve acceleration. My bike seems more tolerant at higher gears now, after several rides, than when I first got it. At first it was very sluggish accelerating, moreso from 35ish to 65 than from a stop to 65 - It was 30 degrees out too then though, I had the choke on, without the choke it runs much smoother.
My last bike was a Yamaha FZ-1 (1000cc's), I bought it new, and sold it when I had a daughter. There really is no comparison between the way these 2 bikes ride, and any habits I had formed riding the FZ-1 don't apply to the Zongshen. Gear selection is much more important on the Zongshen than other bikes, and you have to be careful not to shift too low and drop the clutch, I slid the tires down the hill doing that once. I have quickly learned how the zongshen behaves, and it is a much better ride.
So, I would suggest taking it slow, and really getting to know your bike before venturing into too much traffic, or travelling too far.
Post by: drummerben on June 15, 2008, 05:53:50 AM
Took the bike out yesterday and I still have the high end power fall off. In addition I was experiencing problems at stop and low rpms. The bike was cutting out on me a stop and was riding very rough at low speeds. I adjusted the idle hoping that would fix the problem. I haven't taken the bike out since this, but I am confident
. I'll let you know.
Even with these hiccups, I am still enjoying the ride (allbeit a slow one). I wish there was more top end to keep up with highway traffic (70+), but at least I'm riding. This is my first experience with motorcycles (never ridden before this), so I have no comparison. The thrill factor is present, though, and I look forward to riding more.
Thanks for all your input, BTW.
Post by: drummerben on June 15, 2008, 04:20:19 PM
Post by: xanthmo on June 16, 2008, 05:40:29 AM
Keep us posted on your progress with the bike. Have you tried registration yet?
Be Safe!
Post by: motorstar rider on June 16, 2008, 09:19:52 PM
Post by: drummerben on June 17, 2008, 02:43:44 AM
Post by: xanthmo on June 17, 2008, 07:06:03 AM
Post by: drummerben on June 17, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Just wanted to give an update on my ride. Thought I would give some troubleshooting on my "rough ride" experiences. Decided to check the spark plug and found it to be seriously fouled. Got a new one and replaced. Its like riding on a stick of butter now(the comparison, anyway). I'll let you know once I get some miles on it how it does in the long run.
Post by: xanthmo on June 18, 2008, 06:30:22 AM
Did you have to set the gap on the new plug?
Post by: drummerben on June 18, 2008, 07:35:55 AM
It was an exact replacement of the factory plug, and yes, I bought a gap gauge to set the gap per manual specs. It cranked right up and ran like a dream. I am off work today and haven't had the opportunity to take the bike out (taking care of my four kids) but I will update as soon as I have given it a good run on the new plug. I also bought a spare plug to keep in my backpack w/ me just in case. Its an easy fix, as well as an easy diagnosis (also cheap fix). Can't hurt to have the part and tools w/ me just in case.
Post by: drummerben on June 18, 2008, 09:04:10 AM
You asked whether or not I had tried registration yet. I actually am waiting for the title to get to me from Scooter Dynasty--did you have any problems on that front?
Just wondering.
Post by: xanthmo on June 18, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
I registered the SUNL without a problem. I sold the scooter, but still have the plate which does not expire until July, so... I know it is not the right or legal thing to do, but I have been using the SUNL plate.
I do have insurance though, which cost me about $75/year through progressive.
Post by: drummerben on June 18, 2008, 12:49:45 PM
Hey--have you had to adjust the chain yet? Someone told me that it needs to be done about every 500-600 miles.
Post by: xanthmo on June 18, 2008, 01:12:51 PM
On previous bikes, I would clean and lube the chain almost daily, especially if riding in rain. I used a spray on chain lube which I aqcuired from a Honda shop, but I don't remember what it was called.
Actually, I am pretty uninformed when it comes to the chain on the zongshen, I am going to have to check the chain type when I get home, and research it. I suspect it to be an o-ring chain, I haven't dealt with any other types.
Post by: motorstar rider on June 19, 2008, 08:18:55 AM
here's a pic of my zongshen...
(http://http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc180/starmotor/PICT10379.jpg)
Post by: motorstar rider on June 19, 2008, 08:23:23 AM
Post by: xanthmo on June 19, 2008, 09:17:07 AM
That is a beautiful bike! How long have you had it?
Here in the US, Zongshen only seems to sell the 250 in one color scheme - grey and black.
My neighbor happens to be Black Magic Customs, and I had a chat with them about possibly applying a new paint scheme - I think you just influenced me to go for it!
Again, awesome bike! AND, it sounds like you know a little more about the bike than I do, which will be very helpful.
Xanthmo
Post by: motorstar rider on June 20, 2008, 05:09:36 AM
i had this for about a year now...locally assembled here we have 3 color schemes to choose from, blue/gray, black/gray and red/gray…
nice to have a customs neighbor, you can even design your own paint scheme..
yes, maybe I could share some useful info about the bike.
We could start from here, if you don’t have it yet…this maybe useful when ordering parts later on or when assembling parts, from zongshen Australia: http://http://www.zongshen.com.au/downloads/ZS250GS.pdf
Post by: Myth on June 20, 2008, 10:20:19 AM
I've been doing some research on the Zongshen. It seems like a great starter bike! I was wondering however what kind of gas mileage it really gets.
Some places say 100+mpg some say 120mpg. Which is closer.
These places I've been looking also say that top speed is dependent on weight, so I was wondering how much you fellas weigh so that I might know if it'll go faster with me. I'm a small frame guy, 120-130lbs...
Well I hope to become a good member of this forum, all I need is my bike. I think I can get one for about $1500-$1700, assuming the person I talked to is legit.
I'll check in later, and I'll let y'all know just as soon as I get my ride!
Post by: xanthmo on June 22, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
I am about 160lbs, and I can push the bike up to about 70mph, however, it does start run high in RPMs after about 65mph.
One caveat is that I do recommend you be comfortable with motorcycle maintenance if you are looking to get into riding a chinese motorcycle. I am sure there are small engine shops that could help you with most problems, but the majority of people riding these bikes usually perform their own maintenance. I have had 2 china bikes (a SunL and a Zongshen) and so far, I have had only very minor issues, but other riders have experienced more frustrating problems, even right out of the crate.
Good Luck!
Xanthmo
Post by: Myth on June 23, 2008, 05:29:40 AM
Have you checked your mpg? That's one thing I'm really curious about.
I know nothing about working on bikes yet, but the thought doesn't scare me. Well if I have any trouble I'll probably ask you and motorstar for advice if y'all dont mind...
I'm trying to get a small loan through my bank, so with any luck I may be riding soon. I'll keep y'all informed.
Post by: Myth on June 23, 2008, 09:18:24 AM
Hey drummerben, who'd you get to finance???? I was just askin' cause you said you had trouble getting financed.
Post by: xanthmo on June 23, 2008, 10:14:24 AM
That's too bad on the financing. I did FUNancing, through Scooter Dynasty. I had to apply for the Funancing, then called Vince at Scooter Dynasty, and gave him the confirmation code from the funancing approval - bike showed up a few days later.
FUNancing will only finance up to $2000, so you may have to pay the remainder. Also, you will most likely have to pay state taxes at the DMV upon registration, depending where you are located.
As for MPG's, I have only put in one tank of gas, and haven't used it all yet, actually, I still have 3/4 of a tank. I will start posting numbers as soon as I refill, but at this rate, it may be awhile.
Post by: drummerben on June 23, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
Two things to post:
1)So far, my mpg has recorded at about 55mpg. I am hoping that with some time, that will increase. As I learn how the bike handles, I can adjust my driving to optimize its mpg potential.
2) What kind of fuel do you use? I haven't been able to start the bike the past couple of days. Everything seems to check out--battery, spark plug, fuel--but I can't seem to get it to start. The starter will turn, but the engine just won't crank. A friend of mine suggested that I got bad gas. I filled it with reg. unleaded--should I be using higher grade? Are motorcycle engines, just that sensitive? The manual said 90 petrol--but I didn't know what that meant.
Any Ideas?
Post by: drummerben on June 23, 2008, 02:47:36 PM
I actually got financing through my bank. The reason it posed some difficulty is because the bike is not known. Banks tend to be wary of lending money for something they can't value--I talked them into it, however.
Good luck to you. The "funancing" may be the way to go if you can get approved.
Post by: xanthmo on June 23, 2008, 06:43:30 PM
Drummerben, you are still having problems keeping your bike running/starting? I have not had any problems at all, I have even started it by rolling it out of the garage and dropping the clutch, in gear. Mine always starts, without any trouble. Have you had the chance to ride it at all without problems? I would contact Scooter Dynasty (I think that is where you got it), and see if they can help.
Post by: fletc2239 on June 26, 2008, 12:36:39 PM
Bike is suppose to ship out today . I'm taking a riding class next week . I'll post some pics and comments once it arrives. Did anyone have any problems registering the bike or obtaining a title?
Post by: xanthmo on June 26, 2008, 04:24:46 PM
Congrats on the new Zongshen! I have not yet registered mine (in IL), although I previously registered a SunL without any problems. I guess the registration process varies by DMV, take ALL of your paperwork with you (Bill of Sale, MSO, and in some cases an odometer reading) and if they give you a hard time, try another DMV.
Zongshen was listed with progressive, so even though there are not many around the US, they seem to be recognized.
You got a great deal too!
Keep us posted on progress.
Xanthmo
Post by: rebelj12a on June 27, 2008, 01:11:48 PM
just got my motorcycle license a few weeks ago... why do you need to remove the battery? should you just assume it was bad?... ive heard plenty on this topic about fuel filters extra line and replacement spark plugs...
also i got my license on a Honda Nighthawk, has anyone ridden one and how would it compare to the zongshen? (beside the obvious physical riding differences, im talking speed handling etc)
New Battery - may be bad? (somebody said something about charging the battery after you put the acid in?? - not sure but im assuming thats a new battery he's putting the acid into?) p.2 - 7th post
Replace Oil - peace of mind
External Fuel Filter - not sure on installation but i've heard will help
Spark Plugs - factory ones may not be adequate?
any idea on prices for all that?
the place i want to get it from is charging 96# for the MSO - highway robbery? then again im getting it alot cheaper than that dynasty place
oh yeah and xanthmo you commented on how you adjusted the clutch? ive never done so before so if you could go into some detail that would be awsome! thanks
Post by: gstang on June 28, 2008, 06:00:26 PM
Post by: motorstar rider on June 28, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
Finished with the break-in? you can follow the ‘manual style soft break-in’ or the ‘hard break-in’ I’ve seen here http://[b]http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm[/b], after some confusion and debate I did combination of both…haha.. either way use mineral based oil during break-in, after 2500kms I switched to semi-synthetic oil and noticed improvement specially on gear shifts
Spark plugs? The stock one is adequate enough, but for upgrade you can try a platinum or iridium plug (replaced mine after 2000kms), gives me more mileage between replacement, still using same iridium plug after 6000kms+…still one click starts in the morning
More mpg?…consider also the air/fuel mixture of the carb, I adjusted mine 1 ¾ turn to 2 turns from fully closed position (clockwise-closed, ccw-open) and idle speed to 1300-1400rpm, make sure bike is fully warmed-up….and don’t forget to clean the air filter element (foam) or you get rich mixture on the carb, mine consumes around 30-35kms/liter.
Exhaust? I prefer mine as stock, I did try an open-pipe on my previous ride and not so friendly to the ears…w/ the low bass tone it produce, enough to trigger cars alarms nearby when revving…but when changing to free flowing mufflers you also have to consider re jetting the carb and modifying the air intake…so your mpg will get lower, more power = more gas, I’ve seen a ‘catalytic converter’ on the pipe…don’t remove (my place requires to pass smoke emission tests when registering bike)
Stock tires.. Hard compound (more mileage) but slippery…, now I noticed my stock tires getting thin, and considering upgrade, I’ve read nice feedback on bridgestone, Pirelli, Dunlop….etc, so for now take it easy on the curves…
Post by: GRob-GS250 on July 04, 2008, 08:37:36 AM
I just got my gs250 yesterday and so far so good. I bought it from Lewpack International here in Alpharetta Georgia for $2150, I found them on craigslist. My last bike was a honda shawdow 750 about 10 years ago, so I wanted something kinda on the easy side to get back into it. My bike came fully assembled and I got to test drive it first. Bobby (my sales person) was very nice and it was a pleasure to do business with him, Before I left with the bike he showed me everything on and about the bike (checking oil) ect... As well as ajusted the clutch for me. I did not have trouble getting the insurance with Geico but I havent registered it yet. The first guy in this topic is right about the mirrors, they are useless, They need to be about an inch farther out, As it is its hard to get them ajusted to see behind you, they could be a bit larger as well. It could be me but in 5th gear at around 50mph it seems to be running high rpm's then what Im used to, engine feels like its working to hard, but I have never been on any 250 bike before or a sport bike so this could be normal. I do very much like the look and feel of it.
There are many that critasize this bike not only because its from china but because its a 250 sport bike, I believe (for me) its a good choice. I can post pictures if anyone would like but its pretty much the same as the others on here (grey and black).
Its nice to have a forum to come to for it!!! Thank you
Post by: GRob-GS250 on July 05, 2008, 01:11:20 PM
Post by: Marc on July 05, 2008, 11:44:10 PM
Post by: kristifer on August 16, 2008, 09:46:03 AM
I am also a "larger" guy (260) and was wondering about how fast you are able to get it up to. I plan on trying to commute on one here in California. The speed limit is 55 but traffic runs around 60-65 and I want to make sure that I won't be too much of a traffic impediment. Also, how difficult is it to get up to speed? Thank you very much for anyone who can help.
Post by: GRob-GS250 on August 16, 2008, 10:22:20 AM
Tags and Title
I'm still tryin to get my bike registered here in Georgia, I went to the tags office yesterday and they told me I had to go to the police station and get a T-22B inspection form filled out by a officer, they gave me the form and it looks like the big thing on it is the NHTSA decal or label, The form states that this label should be located on or near the steering post, I have looked on the bike and can find no label that says NHTSA on it. It may be that its the aluminum label located just behind the steering post, this label has the vin number as well as some other information on it. I will find out Monday when I go.
Post by: Zyphlin on September 17, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
I'm slightly worried as I am not extremely mechanically knowledgable, but should know enough to get it up and running. Beyond that, I guess it'll be a learning process
I was mostly just looking for a bike to do my commute on, which is at most 55 MPH (and if I want to go the back way which only increases the trip by a few minutes, 45 MPH) and about 10 minutes. Gas is just killing me and I wanted a motorcycle more for practicality than fun and games, and a low CC one seemed perfect.Will let you all know how it goes once I recieve it.
Post by: Marc on September 17, 2008, 03:35:44 PM
Post by: ILL CLICK ENT on September 18, 2008, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: "xanthmo"
Hello from Yorkville,
I just received a Zongshen 250 GS "Winner". Assembly was pretty easy, with the exception of no instructions included. Took it out for a short ride, and was relatively impressed. Seemed to have decent power, kept up with traffic easily at 65mph.
The bike does have a few shortcomings:
1. The side mirrors are pretty useless.
2. The seats are not on hinges, the passenger seat comes off completely, and the larger seat is bolted on.
3. I broke a bracket to the plastic cover trying to get to the battery.
The good though is that it is a pretty cool looking bike, has a decent sound, decent power, and it is unique.
The shortcomings u refer to are the way a motorcycle is supposed to be. This is not a scooter. The seat is supposed to come completely off and drivers seat is always bolted on any motorcycle.
Post by: xanthmo on September 18, 2008, 07:46:48 PM
Post by: Zyphlin on September 19, 2008, 08:39:35 AM
Post by: xanthmo on September 19, 2008, 03:53:09 PM
I also carried bungees and a cargo net, which was great for strapping bags and stuff to the passenger seat - when I didn't need it, it lived in the tank bag. I have some pictures of my former setup I will post later. I sold it all with the bike just before my daughter was born, thinking I would never want to ride again - well I missed the second after I sold it, that's how I ended up with China bikes.
Also, I bought the Zongshen in March, and just got it registered yesterday. I had tried registration at a small local DMV, and they were not too keen on the Moto Bravo MSO for a Zongshen bike. I finally got up to Woodstock - and had it registered within 10 minutes of walking in the door.
Post by: ILL CLICK ENT on September 20, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Quote from: "xanthmo"
All my other bikes had seats on hinges, with storage underneath. I think it is hard to access the small storage under the Zongshen's passenger seat. I had a scooter too, which had a trunk the size of my Honda's.
Any bike I have ever owned has been how I explained. There is more storage under the drivers seat u need a 8mm wrench to gain access. It takes a min or 2 but if u keep the wrench in tool pouch... piece of cake. This is my 4th bike now and always the same. Rite now I also own a gixxer 750 that I ride when I'm in the mood. The zongshen has been very good on gas so I ride it more now. I'm sure u can get some attachments for the back seat just have to look hard. I always carrry my backpack so I have no need for a trunk.
Post by: xanthmo on September 20, 2008, 08:00:35 PM
Post by: xanthmo on September 20, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
Post by: Myth on September 22, 2008, 04:34:47 AM
), I carry a backpack. I can put a few changes of clothes in it or I normally keep my traditional leather jacket in there along with my Sugo MAX rainsuit and gloves. And I keep two bungees strapped across my backseat for hauling other junk.
Post by: xanthmo on September 22, 2008, 07:49:13 AM
You could certainly modify a scooter trunk off ebay.
Post by: Myth on September 22, 2008, 07:52:06 AM
Post by: ILL CLICK ENT on September 22, 2008, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: "Myth"
So X, your sayin' the tank bag has zip on sections??? So you can control the size?
His bag does zip in different areas to make small or big. It's nice, I just don't like my gauges blocked. U can hold a lot in it.
Post by: xanthmo on September 23, 2008, 06:19:20 AM
The top section and the bottom section could be used independently, so I would usually put the top in the bottom if I was not carrying too much. both sections turned into a book bag type of setup when I would take them off the bike. I got this from a Honda dealership, I think the brand was river road.
Post by: xanthmo on September 23, 2008, 08:31:50 AM
Post by: Myth on September 23, 2008, 08:39:43 AM
Post by: xanthmo on September 23, 2008, 09:29:19 AM
Did you have to tune the carb to get into the 70-80 range? My bike runs well, and has only seemed to improve on acceleration, but, my top speed is actually lower than when I first started riding it, maybe 65max. I tinkered with the fuel/air mixture a little, but may have done more harm than good. Have not checked the plug for indications yet. Exhaust smells and looks clean though.
Post by: Myth on September 23, 2008, 10:03:01 AM
Have you adjusted you valves??? Cause there's a way to set them to give you a little more on the high end... At least that's what I was told. If I remember correctly you're supposed to set the valves a little on the tighter side...
Post by: xanthmo on September 23, 2008, 11:22:57 AM
Has anyone noticed if different octane fuels increase or decrease performance? I think it says 90 or higher on the bike somewhere, maybe on the label on the swingarm. I only use regular, but I can't remember if that is 87 or 92 octane.
Post by: Myth on September 23, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
Post by: xanthmo on September 23, 2008, 01:30:46 PM
Post by: Myth on September 24, 2008, 04:43:11 AM
I'll let y'all know how it works out.
Post by: xanthmo on September 24, 2008, 06:12:22 AM
I still need a good chain lube, I have been using whatever I can find.
My bright headlight works sporadically, with really no consistent pattern - I may have to check the wiring.
If you find a working bulb Myth, let us know, I am sure we will all need one sooner or later. I would probably keep one extra with the bike - since mine only has the dim, I am afraid if it goes out at night, well ... I am not sure what I would do.
Post by: ILL CLICK ENT on September 24, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
Post by: Devstatham on September 24, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
Post by: Myth on September 25, 2008, 04:35:37 AM
Good luck on getting the Zong Dev. Seems like the perfect starter bike and it's priced nicely.
Post by: choylifutsoccer on September 25, 2008, 02:10:54 PM
Is the carburetor really a Sheng Wey? I don't know how to tell on mine.